Alright, so usually IDGAF about GPOYs with ~famous people~, but I found this on my computer tonight and it’s silly & ridiculous & just ripe for the bloggin’.
This is a picture (credit: Amul Kumar) of me with my favorite singer, Dax Riggs, backstage at the Howlin’ Wolf in New Orleans, July 2004. I had just discovered his music a few months earlier via a dangerous mix CD from a crushboy in Pittsburgh, and made it my Personal Mission to find someone to road trip with me a thousand miles to see him play in a bar because These Things Are Important. My new, older boyfriend at the time agreed to this absurd excursion because if you can believe it I was once a Manic Pixie Dream Girl who knew How to Have a Good Time & I’m sure he relished the opportunity to ~teach~ me about How to Have Sex in Hotels and Other, Sneakier Places.
In any case, after the show, I interviewed Dax for my zine and, like, nearly died. This interview is still on the Internet (?!) and I’m like, nearly dying. (If you click through, please note that, again, I was 20 & coming off a Serious Artistic/Existential Crisis & could often be found at shows shoving a tape recorder in strangers’ faces and asking them to define “what punk means to you” and “what is the role of the Artist in society?” WHATEVER.)
Noteworthy Self-Indulgent Moments of this Photo Include:
- You can tell I am hella nervous because arms crossed & forgetting to cover my teeth when I smile.
- I might’ve been drunk.
- Scally cap & plaid because this was during my Irish Punx phase because Dropkick Murphys and validating my watered-down broke-ass ~heritage~.
- Short skirt, y’know, just in case.
- OMG why did I ever get all these tattoos.

Alright, so usually IDGAF about GPOYs with ~famous people~, but I found this on my computer tonight and it’s silly & ridiculous & just ripe for the bloggin’.

This is a picture (credit: Amul Kumar) of me with my favorite singer, Dax Riggs, backstage at the Howlin’ Wolf in New Orleans, July 2004. I had just discovered his music a few months earlier via a dangerous mix CD from a crushboy in Pittsburgh, and made it my Personal Mission to find someone to road trip with me a thousand miles to see him play in a bar because These Things Are Important. My new, older boyfriend at the time agreed to this absurd excursion because if you can believe it I was once a Manic Pixie Dream Girl who knew How to Have a Good Time & I’m sure he relished the opportunity to ~teach~ me about How to Have Sex in Hotels and Other, Sneakier Places.

In any case, after the show, I interviewed Dax for my zine and, like, nearly died. This interview is still on the Internet (?!) and I’m like, nearly dying. (If you click through, please note that, again, I was 20 & coming off a Serious Artistic/Existential Crisis & could often be found at shows shoving a tape recorder in strangers’ faces and asking them to define “what punk means to you” and “what is the role of the Artist in society?” WHATEVER.)

Noteworthy Self-Indulgent Moments of this Photo Include:

- You can tell I am hella nervous because arms crossed & forgetting to cover my teeth when I smile.

- I might’ve been drunk.

- Scally cap & plaid because this was during my Irish Punx phase because Dropkick Murphys and validating my watered-down broke-ass ~heritage~.

- Short skirt, y’know, just in case.

- OMG why did I ever get all these tattoos.

Sonny Vincent & the Bad Reactions at Spillage House, Athens GA, 05.04.12 | selenographie

Usually I’m not partial to (and would rarely post) such blurry photos, but I guess in this case it is appropriate considering ~punk rock~ and a need to document. These were taken while they were singing “MK Ultra,” my favorite Testors song.

Sonny Vincent/The Testors: “MK Ultra”

Just got to see/hear this live in the refurbished punkhaus where I used to live. CHECK.

sl33pcr33p:

I was talking at rgr half asleep last night about trailer goth vs subdivision goth and I think I wanna expound on it tumblr style. There’s kind of a fucked up or even sinister dynamic to subdivision goth as a sister identity to trailer goth, in that for me and I think for most of us trailer goth is about agency. (Not that i ever lived in a trailer - we always lived in houses or duplexes and that gave us false pride and more debt . Like, no we never lived in a trailer but you did spend my life savings I worked for to keep us afloat.) Because buried in apparent petty rebellion was the truth that you were never wanted by society in the first place. Trailer goth is rejecting a society that rejected you from the get-go: because you are poor.

And there are places like Hot Topic that are synonymous with the aesthetic that bring the differences into sharp focus: who can afford to look the part and who can’t. For a long time the only clothes from Hot Topic I had were ones my friends bought me for Christmas. And I wore those shirts to DEATH. There’s the another bit: whose clothes had holes in them because they wore them out and whose clothes had holes in them because they put them there. And even access to aesthetic was not all about being able to buy clothes (because they could be stolen) but getting there. Trailer goths were lucky if both their parents had cars (mine didn’t most of the time), subdivision goths got new cars from their parents. Going to the mall at all was entirely reliant on Who Had Cars and it definitely wasn’t us. I’ll never forget when I got too tall (and too much butt) to wear my only plaid miniskirts I found at fashion bug one time for $1. Utter devastation.

So I guess I have come to resent these kids, who have grown up to become either crust fund kids (you know exactly what I’m talking about) or the girl I caught up with at a show last weekend who was complaining about money even though she doesn’t have a job and her grandparents pay her rent, as she flipped her purple hair that she confessed to me she got done at a salon last week. AT A SALON. This same girl used to take me to the mall in her new silver bug until I got grounded for like a year when my mom found my MySpace account. She bought me my first hot topic shirt for Christmas when I was 14. I made her a mixed cd in return. You know? You outta know.

The other night I was looking through my Documents folder for an old zine excerpt I wanted to post here, and instead I accidentally found a mislabeled rough draft for a different zine that never was, something that I had written when I was 25 and it was about My Formative Years. And I realized that I had been trying to write some kind of Compendium of My Formative Years ever since I was 21 and those memories started going fuzzy — all the things about high school and hanging out in parking lots, 15 of us and that one friend who had a station wagon, and how important it was that our arms were covered in cheap plastic and metal bracelets, how important it was to find the perfect pair of head-kicking boots at the Salvation Army, and all the authentic things we wrote in black marker on our jeans and canvas shoes. But also how nowadays I mock this part of myself and wonder how what was once so important is now so superficial to me.

It was important because some girl in Catholic school stole my one fancy hair barrette, because we couldn’t have new winter coats every year, because my parents and the community helped us to afford Catholic school because my mom thought it was important and was afraid we’d never learn anything in public school; because I sweat through my blouses and wore godawful saddle shoes and came home crying from being bullied every day and sometimes bruised and because I don’t remember hardly any of that but my mom says it’s true. It was important because I dressed in baggy clothes because I hated everything because everything hated me because I fell in love with my best friend and we held hands and got matching haircuts and boys threw rocks at me because they couldn’t decide if I was a dyke or a fag.

Because buried in apparent petty rebellion was the truth that you were never wanted by society in the first place. Trailer goth is rejecting a society that rejected you from the get-go: because you are poor. (sl33pcr33p)

I mean I wanted to finally romanticize those things with the looking back of being older at 21, at 25, at 28 — having these moods labelled Getting Over Punk because as I have gotten older the mantra “if you hate your job, quit” was just never a possibility, and as I’ve gotten older I don’t care about having a ~style~ or expressing my identity via fashion because who cares?, because I can’t afford it and I can’t afford to go to jail — because I used to steal from Hot Topic and I remember the first time I went to that store I was 13 and only had a few plain black t-shirts of my own and I said, oh my god it’s a store for people like me. Because it took me so many years to understand that “a store for people like me” is exactly the point, that I can purchase my identity, acquire my authentic self-expression at the mall — ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated? But then also, what does it mean that a marketed style of rebellion actually helped push me into radical thought? I mean I eventually had to research what anarchy actually is because they sold circle-A patches at Hot Topic and I had to be able to explain it to my dad, you know.

My parents never worried or got angry when I started listening to Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails and I was practically enraged over the fact that this rebelliousness didn’t phase them — the cursing and the devil and the sexuality. I once saved $30 to get floor seats to a Marilyn Manson show in 1999 and my parents probably said something about how I might as well be throwing my money in the gutter, but I defended “his work” so passionately: But he’s an ARTIST. You don’t GET IT, he is so smart and he UNDERSTANDS things. They said, he’s a good businessman, that’s for sure. File under: Times My Parents Were Right (a lot, actually).

I started hating all of it when the stores like JCPenney’s and Sears (or Belk or Macy’s or insert-your-regional-equivalent-here) started selling the pre-ripped jeans and the distressed t-shirts and notebooks with handwritten “love you grrl!” and “rock’n’roll” on the cover already, like this was a false signifier. I mean my pants ripped from falling down, from getting beat up in a pit at a $3 punk show and from only having the one pair of pants anyway. I mean my journals were 99-cent spiral-bound notebooks that my friends wrote notes on, my friends not the shopping mall. This was important and it was important to be angry about the commodification and argue over the validity of your punk, but now even that kind of meta/ironic-rebellious attitude is A Thing and I am sort of left signifying nothing. Some girls in my class ten years younger than me were talking dismissively about the present-day 90’s “style” “comeback” and how they saw someone wearing an actual scrunchie on their wrist and I looked down at my stupid plaid skirt over torn jeans like this shameful what even is anything.

I still hate it — punk, or punk nostalgia, or punk aesthetic, or whatever — sometimes because it is still so much about access… this thing I thought I belonged to and then felt pushed out of anyway and wanted to care but it’s not cool to care and then couldn’t care but did, a little. And it’s like I used to be jealous about when people can say, I feel tomboyish today so I’m wearing this, I feel femme today so I’m wearing this, I feel sexy today so I’m wearing this, and I would wish I had the money to buy a nice dress or the time to make a nice dress (time is money is value of course) — I wondered if my tomboyish presentation is simply a function of practicality and frugality and what I would have to sacrifice (waking up even earlier than 6:30 to fix my hair?) to have more of a choice in the matter — and I would wish I could afford to get a tattoo or piercing to commemorate important events (I used to force this to be affordable but I can’t anymore and I sometimes hate tattoos now); and I would want to dye my hair on personal whims and sometimes even want to learn how to do makeup. And I would want to be able to buy records and alcohol and place large orders to zine distros and shop at the farmers market and be able to do punk right, or whatever. And then I got angry, and then I didn’t care — or I cared but I didn’t care. Or I don’t know at all.

When my Friend was deep into his alcoholism that’s where all the money went. Sometimes it seemed to me like this completely fucked-up Zenlike existence/non-existence of simply accepting everything (as long as there was a drink of course). I would have nervous breakdowns about paying the bills or why does our backyard look so white trash (the importance of being able to pass as not-white-trash was deeply ingrained in my from my mother) or why can’t I find a dress that fits me properly or why am I always five years behind on music, etc.

Sometimes he was like this truly authentic creature who didn’t give two shits about expressing an identity, paying to get into shows, getting his guitars repaired. Like if his guitar strings broke, he would just stop playing, no big deal. I asked him, what would you look like if you didn’t have to spend all your money on alcohol? What would you wear? Would you get a haircut? Would you ever get a tattoo? Would you buy effects pedals or get your amp fixed? What kind of records would you buy if you could just shop around instead of asking me to download and burn albums? Would you buy art supplies? What if you had fancy paper instead of painting on cardboard boxes? & he said he didn’t know, really, maybe a pair of pants that were actually his size, a new amp, guitar strings, a set of colored pencils.

I mean this genuine disinterest was utterly fascinating to me. I only wish that I could not-care that hard sometimes.

in the Interest of the Blogosphere: Posts tagged “questions” are to be considered as such, works-in-progress, rough drafts, processing, etc. And especially please note that I am not intending to discredit the validity of or shit-talk individuals who utilize fashion as a form of identity expression, okay? It is interesting to me (eg feminist makeupping) but not particularly my thing, and I’m just trying to describe how I see radical and capital get so convoluted and entangled. This shit is complex, sometimes, and like, I rarely know what the hell I’m talking about anyway.

(Source: persephonette)

What Comes After the Hipster? We Ask the Experts

“Subcultures are generational because they are a way for young people to distinguish themselves, their taste and style, their outlook on life, and their place in society against prevailing cultural norms. Subcultures are defined against parent cultures. So the hipsters of the 2000s are a Millennial generation subculture (actually, a small, affluent niche of Millennials with enough cultural capital to discern hipness from a lack of hipness). Whatever comes after Millennials will find its own awesome or annoying forms of expression, and we just don’t know what it will look like because it hasn’t happened yet. But it’s probably safe to assume that like hipsters — whether of the 1940s and ’50s or of more recent days — the next waves of youth subculture will reject many aspects of square society, pick and choose elements of earlier styles or appropriate the styles of other cultures, define itself especially by its music and dress, and reject whatever label is given to it.”

(Source: buffleheadcabin, via recklesschants)

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Bomb the Music Industry: “(Shut) Up the Punx!!!”

I love this song, and I love being the kind of jerk who loves this song on, like, a level of total meta-arrogance. Punx judging and complaining about punx judging and complaining about punx. METAPUNX ALL THE WAY DOWN.

I’m so glad that as I approach age 30 I give less and less of a shit (even nostalgically).

tiocfaidharlulz:

I know it’s hypocritical to point fingers at the people who point fingers. But when we all march to the beat of the same different drummer, the steps start to come off like clockwork. I guess I’m saying we could stand to be nicer because when you’re in a basement talking shit and interspersing it with speaking in namedrops and units, I must admit I’m not the best when on the defensive. I’d rather steal your whiskey than your heart in conversation. I’d rather break three strings a song then stick to a routine like I’m ripe for the picking after growing on a tree and then talk about the industry, cross-market positivity with vinyl nerds and brightly colored, quirky messy record sleeves. I’d rather be vomiting and I despise vomiting. Blugh.

But thanks for the beer. I appreciate your time but can we talk about something else? If you really think that you and I are on the same page you can go ahead and fuck yourself. Because you’ve got coke and good looks, I’ve got overdue library books so let’s be friends and change the subject now.

‘Cause the last thing I wanna be is another negative asshole. Like God speaks through my acoustic guitar and I’ve got the perfect set of morals on a dry erase board at the front of the house.

FOLLOW THESE CONDITIONS OR WE’LL KICK YOUR ASS OUT:
Vegans only: NO MEAT ALLOWED!
Straight edge only: NO DRINKING ALLOWED!
Fixed gears only: NO THREE-SPEEDS ALLOWED!
Me me me!!!: I’M SMART! I’M RIGHT! I’M SMART!

I think it’s dumb when you take the inherently fun like riding bikes and singing songs and say they’re not for everyone as if for your whole life you were cool as shit.

“Punk tourist!”

‘Cause you still beg for cash cause you spent your parents’ last on a Greyhound to the Fest and your jacket says Crass but I don’t give an ass I’m not giving you fifty cents so that you can buy a forty and destroy a hotel party as the man who cleans your mess up shrugs and says, “This non-conformity looks like conformity, like boring nice people pose threats to your authority. This positivity is negativity and you boys sure left me with a mess to clean.”

Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fuck up do something. Instead of sneering at my friends and me ‘cause we’re not stealing buy a troubled friend a drink at the bar and tip well. Don’t spend your time scoffing when do that you’re just scoffing like the people who scoff at us while defending our community. You’re a teacher, you’re a parent, you’re the head of a dictatorship. When the ground is covered up in rules you’re guaranteed to power trip.

This non-conformity looks like conformity. Why should anyone believe in our community? This organization doesn’t feel like anarchy ‘cause we’re suiting up to have the same identity and the boring nice people say, “Shut up the punx!” All the people who have barbecues to feed their friends and family, “Shut up the punx!” All the people writing zines with information, not just blaming things, “Shut up the punx!” All the boys and girls are fed up with just saying that we’re punk, we say, “Shut up the punx!”

Rocket from the Crypt: “On a Rope”

Same old story, it’s gettin’ kinda gory
Throw my all time low away
Spit turns into a treasure, taste the blind side of life
Choke words that I can’t say

No gun, no bomb, no way I’ll run
Too bad, I’m not in shape
Too little, too late, that deal’s so chaste
Do burning hands seem to care?

in Which Academic Discourse Is Often a Luxury

rgr-pop:

mappingthemoon:

Infighting & class warfare among the “radicals” means CAPITALISM IS WINNING.

I’m pretty sure the existence of homeless people means CAPITALISM IS WINNING, but whatever.

So anyway:
a) what you are doing is classist
b) and if we are not allowed to talk about how stuff is classist unless we are poor, we are certainly not allowed to talk about “class warfare” unless we are poor

Well… I am poor. I made some less-than-ideal choices in the past and ended up sleeping in alleyways for a while. Nowadays I’m supporting myself & my unemployed partner on ~8K/year. I don’t like to explain (or brag about) this as a Valid Reason to Speak about a Particular Issue, because I am not usually proud of being poor (because capitalism!), but I guess it applies in this context. Also I was raised with a stubborn belief that it is important to be able to pass as NOT-Poor-White-Trash and so as I child I got vernacular/slang criticized out of me and learned that Having an Education and knowing how to read and write eloquently are all very important in order to be taken seriously by Other People (who could potentially provide jobs, educational opportunities, and extensions on repaying past-due debts).

That being said, I’m relating this discussion to what ponys brought up re: the fetishization of poverty within the punk community and how if looking “trashy” is an expression of punk/rad culture/ideals then how does one know offhand what privileges are actually in place? (eg. I own one pair of pants due to my economic situation vs. wearing the same pair of pants in defiance of consumerism OR wearing the same pair of pants as a mere “fashion statement.”) There are different routes to radical thinking/lifestyles, and some of us come into it from living in poverty and some of us come into it from the suburbs, and then because of the dress code and lifestyle choices one can’t always tell the difference. So then it’s weird, to me, to get called out for a particular assumed privilege (such as having a middle class background) when I didn’t have that privilege and when in fact I am coming from a history of Family Struggling in Various Levels of Poverty for Generations so… paralleling that with “hobo bean night” doesn’t offend me, although it may offend others with different backgrounds/identities, but they are still welcome to come and eat beans, presumably.

While gopfuzz’s response (“When you actually have to work to feed yourself…”) was snarky and aggro, IF he is also in the Poor-White-Trash economic stratum and is actually experiencing poverty and/or has been a “wandering worker,” is it still class-appropriation to align one’s own community-feeding events with a history of something similar (ie “hobo stew”)? Personally I prefer reclaiming “Poor White Trash” as a means of “owning my poverty” (as per blairellis’ response) but also when I was travelling I did work odd jobs (“hobo”) and sometimes begged for change (“crusty”…although I didn’t get drunk while travelling, and my definition of crusty has always been “drunk and obnoxious vagabond-by-choice”). I didn’t like to use “hobo” because I didn’t ride trains, though.

Also, veering somewhat off-topic but pertaining again to things ponys mentioned, there is the weird exclusion thing in punk/rad communities where as an Actual Poor Person there are a lot of rad activities I can’t participate in due to lack of time/money, as many aspects of punk culture are tied to capitalism still (shopping for vintage clothes, buying vinyl, going out to cool local restaurants, drinking fair-trade coffee, being able to afford crafting supplies to do diy things) — and also simply not having the time to participate in these community functions (in addition to not having time to read, not having time to keep up with blog discourse) because being Actually Poor takes up a lot of time going to jobs, waiting on buses, waiting at the laundromat, waiting in line for foodstamps, etc.). Then there can be exclusion on the other side when poor punx get all judgey upon finding out that other punx are sitting on trust funds or have parents who provide them with cars or groceries. And how sometimes it feels like a very thin line between Ally and Privileged Person Attempting to Speak on Behalf of an Oppressed Group Even Though they May Not Know Jack Shit about What It’s Like (even though it is not always necessary for one to personally experience an injustice to want to help others fight against it). And so when I say that “class warfare among the radicals means that capitalism is winning” I mean that there’s this divide-and-conquer thing happening where we are unable to relate and work together sometimes because “you’re being privileged” and “you don’t know what it’s really like!” (questioning “authenticity,” clinging to “identity”) and meanwhile, people are hungry and still homeless, cf. theory + action in tandem, not versus.

You said:

Incidentally, is this directed towards the General You, or the Original-Poster You, or me? (Since I didn’t say that stuff & Appeal to WikiPedia is still Appeal to the Dictionary/Authority anyway.) My only original response re: infighting & then reposting the Hobo Ethical Code was a hiding-behind-other-people’s-words appeal for all to maybe try to deal with Serious Relevant Issues in a not-mean-and-personally-attacking-based-in-nonpolitical-other-problems way.

Afterward I saw a useful image in the CrimethInc. Work book of a cartoon punching herself in the face, captioned “An ineffective way to deal with your privilege.”

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Y’ALL incidentally I think we could all stand to learn a little lesson from The Hobo Ethical Code (“created by Tourist Union #63 during its 1889 National Hobo Convention in St. Louis Missouri”):

  1. Decide your own life, don’t let another person run or rule you.
  2. When in town, always respect the local law and officials, and try to be a gentleman at all times.
  3. Don’t take advantage of someone who is in a vulnerable situation, locals or other hobos.
  4. Always try to find work, even if temporary, and always seek out jobs nobody wants. By doing so you not only help a business along, but ensure employment should you return to that town again.
  5. When no employment is available, make your own work by using your added talents at crafts.
  6. Do not allow yourself to become a stupid drunk and set a bad example for locals’ treatment of other hobos.
  7. When jungling in town, respect handouts, do not wear them out, another hobo will be coming along who will need them as bad, if not worse than you.
  8. Always respect nature, do not leave garbage where you are jungling.
  9. If in a community jungle, always pitch in and help.
  10. Try to stay clean, and boil up wherever possible.
  11. When traveling, ride your train respectfully, take no personal chances, cause no problems with the operating crew or host railroad, act like an extra crew member.
  12. Do not cause problems in a train yard, another hobo will be coming along who will need passage through that yard.
  13. Do not allow other hobos to molest children, expose all molesters to authorities, they are the worst garbage to infest any society.
  14. Help all runaway children, and try to induce them to return home.
  15. Help your fellow hobos whenever and wherever needed, you may need their help someday.
  16. If present at a hobo court and you have testimony, give it. Whether for or against the accused, your voice counts!

(except for maybe the first half of #2; always look out for #2!)

Infighting & class warfare among the “radicals” means CAPITALISM IS WINNING.

Eat those beans. Share the beans! Clean up your shit. We all do what we can when we can.

gopfuzz:

Hmm, I have weird feelings about passive aggressive bullies sitting on the internet, hiding behind their keyboards who feel like they are entitled to judge the entire fucking world!  

The Wikipedia definition of HOBO:

The term originated in the Western—probably Northwestern—United States during the last decade of the 19th century.[1] Unlike ‘tramps’, who work only when they are forced to, and ‘bums’, who do not work at all, ‘hobos’ are workers who wander”


This isn’t about class, it is about cheap and fast food.  It is a word!  I understand that certain words are offensive and fucked, but this is just a stupid term referring to a can of fucking beans.  It also has become a really cool way of getting people in our community together in REAL LIFE, where we can all hang out and eat together, rather than talk shit on the internet.  When you actually have to work to feed yourself, and you struggle to get by, and every pair of underwear you own has holes in them, give me a call.


katydidnot:

gopfuzz:

Planning to have a GIANT Hobo Bean Night at the Fuzzler’s Farewell Extravaganza!!!

HMM, i have weird class-appropriation feelings about the concept of a hobo bean night that i am much much too lazy to properly articulate. 

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